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Cory Streater #1

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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 4:29 PM

There's a lot of press being given to a Tweet by @evleaks:
 
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I selected 2 of his Tweeted leaks from the past — the Lucid 2 & the Facebook Phone. Both ended up being true, and a bunch of respectable media outlets turn most of his Tweets into a story... Phonedog, Ubergizmo, Engadget, Mobile Syrup, Tech Crunch, etc...
 
That said, when I watched the All Things D interview with Dennis Woodside (Moto Mobility CEO), I was left with the impression that the Moto X phone would be less about what's under the hood, and more about its artificial intelligence functionality.

 

Still, these specs are a bit disappointing IMHO:

  • 1.7GHz Dual-Core MSM8960 Processor
  • 720p Screen
  • 2GB RAM
  • 16GB Internal Storage
  • 10MP Rear Facing Camera
  • 2MP Front Facing Camera
  • Android 4.2.2

That last bullet doesn't make any sense at all.


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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 5:52 PM

That's about what we'd expect right? 10mp is nice.

I hope it has some great features we haven't seen anywhere else. Because really, if it can't impress people they are going to buy Samsung.

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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 8:11 PM

How are these specs disappointing?  That phone will fly through whatever you throw at it.  My RAZR MAXX can play back full-bitrate Bluray rips without issues...something my Nexus 7 can't even do and it only has a 1.2ghz dual core.  I like that they didn't throw in a 1080p screen.  I'm sure it would be nice to have but it doesn't take away from my experience once you get to a certain point...although, we don't know how big the screen will be for sure yet.

 

As far as the Android version is concerned, he said we would be seeing these in October, which is probably too soon to expect a new Android version.  Google is really taking their time here, and doing one of two things... 1) a system-wide overhaul of Android, something more significant than just an upgrade or 2) trying to get consumers used to less frequent version updates.  They would be making up for it with the work that was done improving Google Services Framework so users can still take advantage of new features without necessarily having to wait for an update to the newest version of Android.



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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 8:33 PM

What concerns me are the screen and camera.. two areas that have always bothered me with Moto phones. Only a 720 screen? The 10mp camera.. can't judge on mega pixels alone so we'll have to see how the software performs. Dual core instead of a quad core?... areas that are arguable so I'll have to hold judgement but quad core always sounds better on paper. 2GB RAM.. fine, but if other manufacturers bump up to 3GB around the same time of release then that'll be a little disappointing. They better release this phone soon, if rumors hold true with a June or July launch they might get away with these specs.. but come the end of the year, I think they may fall short compared to the rest of the game and what's headed this way.

I really hope Motorola doesn't disappoint with this phone because I'd love to switch back to them.. but to be honest I'm a little scared for them. This is supposed to be their flagship phone being released above a few other mid range devices under the same Moto X brand.. I'd hate to see the specs on the other lower end devices.

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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 8:44 PM

I just don't understand why every phone has to have the highest specs to be considered a respectable or even flagship device. It's more about the experience and if they can deliver a phone that looks good, feels good and doesn't slow down then I'm happy.

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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 8:48 PM

I just don't understand why every phone has to have the highest specs to be considered a respectable or even flagship device. It's more about the experience and if they can deliver a phone that looks good, feels good and doesn't slow down then I'm happy.

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That's true.. the higher specs bigger numbers will always look better on paper but in the end it comes down to performance. What's that saying? It's not the size that matters, its....... :P .. having both is untouchable though ;)

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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 9:12 PM

Is this similar to the "XFON" leaks or is that a different device? I hope Moto hits a winner with this phone.



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Posted Jun 15 '13 @ 9:14 PM

Yes.. I believe so.

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Posted Jun 16 '13 @ 5:10 AM

I realize bigger is not always better, but at some point....things have to be...at least.... adequate.  I think my Galaxy Nexus has a 720p screen and this is ok for me, but with everything else coming with 1020 you have to wonder about this screen decision if this info is correct.  Of course 720 may use less battery than 1020 so maybe that is their thinking.

 

With Qualcomm releasing new versions of processors some of which may reduce power consumption you kinda expect new release devices to take advantage of them.

 

16M of ram?  I have 32 right now so lets hope there are options to upgrade to 32

 

Do you  think it is possible that they might offer the phone in a few different configurations?   One with the above specs, one with a 1080P screen and larger storage?  If moto wants to reduce the number of different phones they have floating around it might make since to release just one with different configurations and options.  This would be the point of an X phone.  The phone has no model name so it is X.  Each X can have a different configuration based on what you want to buy.

 

I agree with Corey about Android 4.2.2.  Maybe that is what it is being tested with now so they can't release a phone with 4.3 on it before 4.3 is released?

 

I actually like the idea of releasing updates through Google Play services framework instead of doing so with new system releases, but the point with that would be that as applications increase functionality the equipment they run one would have to improve to support them and that's when you buy a new phone.  So releasing a phone with seemly less capability than others doesn't make too much sense.

 

I dunno I guess just wait and see.


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Posted Jun 16 '13 @ 6:12 AM

I won't consider it but I'm interested to see where they go with this.

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Posted Jun 16 '13 @ 9:24 AM

Why would we expect it to have a newer version of Android? Didn't Woodside state that Moto doesn't get early access to code? If Google hasn't released 4.3, then no one has it. Edited to add the link to the post regarding Moto not having early access to code https://forums.thean...ition#entry3144

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Posted Jun 16 '13 @ 6:20 PM

Why would we expect it to have a newer version of Android? Didn't Woodside state that Moto doesn't get early access to code? If Google hasn't released 4.3, then no one has it.
Edited to add the link to the post regarding Moto not having early access to code
https://forums.thean...ition#entry3144

I wouldn't expect them to release it with this phone either.. Newer versions of Android have always been showcased on Nexus devices.. that being said, there's a lot going on that no one really has the answers to.. We have Google releasing Nexus experience devices, Goggle has bought Motorola and is releasing this Moto X as a so called pure Android phone and then there's the next Nexus 5 that we have no news on. As long as the Nexus line continues then I expect to keep seeing the newer OS being announced with those devices.. So with all that's going on right now, I guess we will have to wait and see how this is all going to play out.

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Posted Jun 17 '13 @ 7:11 AM

Why would we expect it to have a newer version of Android? Didn't Woodside state that Moto doesn't get early access to code? If Google hasn't released 4.3, then no one has it.
Edited to add the link to the post regarding Moto not having early access to code
https://forums.thean...ition#entry3144

Good point. I suppose by now that most of the coding for the X is already designed and built around Jellybean, and the phone is likely in beta internally. If Google hasn't given them the OS yet, then waiting for Key Lime Pie would add several more months of delay.
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Posted Jun 17 '13 @ 7:35 AM

screen : 640x1136 (WSVGA?)

camera: 8MP
screen size: 4"
battery: 1440 mAh
dual core 1.3 ghz
Ram: 1GB
 
Those are the specs of one of the most reliable phones in the world ... currently... just to put things into perspective ( for anyone who cares to read this and myself as well)
 
We do not know the size of the screen yet so 720p could still look awesome if it happens to be a 4.5" screen for example... and it would certainly help on battery life versus a 1080p on the same screen size... (I am amazed at the 1080p screen on the One and it is no doubt the most beautiful display I have seen on a phone but I can easily live with a 720p, hell my Toro still looks amazing to me)
 
I do not want to get too much into the processor and the dual core vs quad core debate (or even octacore at this point), but if that phone can perform as well as my N10 (dual core 1.7ghz), I would be very happy ;) ... just as long as the 2gb of RAM spec is true (same CPU/RAM combo as N10 it seems).
 
10MP is great but I dont really care... I just want a camera that takes beautiful pictures that's all :P ( I currently have one of the worst smartphone cameras of any high-end smartphones of the past 2 years so...)
 
16GB of internal storage is perfect for me and should be fine for most, I hope..
 
All that said, battery life is becoming my biggest concern and decision factor for the purchase of a new phone... my Gnex lasts 10 hours on light usage, and probably about 3 hours when really using it (everything syncing, taking pictures, watching videos, playing games..etc)...
 
I know Moto will deliver on battery life, and I hope it delivers on everything else :P 

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Posted Jun 17 '13 @ 11:54 AM

The Nexus 5.  Cyber mentioned this.  He's right.  We have NO news on this.  So is there really going to be one?  Would it matter since we have devices on the play store that are going to receive updates from Google.  I could understand this program when Google was trying to get manufacturers on board...but now....does this make sense....or would it be better if the program was gradually phased down?

 

On another note.  Most IOS users don't even know what kind of anything their phone has.  It doesn't matter because they like the phone................If we end up with a phone and we like it.....it performs most things in a "flaweless manner and we are not chained to chargers..........  does it matter if it has a 4 core processor or whatever?

 

I know about technology, yet when I use my phone or tablet I just want it to work and do it fast.....give me that web page right now!....make that phone call......answer that call without loosing it........Let me go to that porn site right now.....oh never mind................point being that as long as I get a smooth, direct, smooth  response from my phone on the first push of a button I am happy.  View that youtube without a glitch - I am happy. 

 

Screen size:  I have a Gnex, so what, that's 4.5.  I don't want it any bigger unless the phone can be made much smaller.  Do you know what I look like when I have this phone in my pants?  I walk around with it  in my front pocket and everyone I meet on the street is looking down with that look....um so What's that..over there?

 

I think about the G Note and the 8 inch device Samsung is introducing.  Before I could even consider that I would have to get a man bag or man clutch or whatever you call it.

 

so  ....NO bigger thanks.

 

Better battery life,  a good crisp clear screen, quick response, maximum memory, good storage, no SD card a good camera(although I don't have any problem using HDR camera as an alternative)....no extra moto apps and if possible no carrier aps or if so ones that I can delete.............and I am happy

 

Now will people buy this phone  if it is not cutting edge technology?  Will non android tech users buy this phone?   ....The questions.

 

 

 

 



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Posted Jun 17 '13 @ 11:35 PM

screen : 640x1136 (WSVGA?)
camera: 8MP
screen size: 4"
battery: 1440 mAh
dual core 1.3 ghz
Ram: 1GB
 
Those are the specs of one of the most reliable phones in the world ... currently... just to put things into perspective ( for anyone who cares to read this and myself as well)

 
I thought you were talking about some Android phone from a few years ago until I started Googling it o_O
 

I know about technology, yet when I use my phone or tablet I just want it to work and do it fast.....give me that web page right now!....make that phone call......answer that call without loosing it........Let me go to that porn site right now.....oh never mind................point being that as long as I get a smooth, direct, smooth  response from my phone on the first push of a button I am happy.  View that youtube without a glitch - I am happy.


Exactly how I feel. Maybe with some additional emphasis of not having any lag :)
 

Screen size:  I have a Gnex, so what, that's 4.5.  I don't want it any bigger unless the phone can be made much smaller.  Do you know what I look like when I have this phone in my pants?  I walk around with it  in my front pocket and everyone I meet on the street is looking down with that look....um so What's that..over there?


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Posted Jun 18 '13 @ 6:13 AM

 

screen : 640x1136 (WSVGA?)
camera: 8MP
screen size: 4"
battery: 1440 mAh
dual core 1.3 ghz
Ram: 1GB
 
Those are the specs of one of the most reliable phones in the world ... currently... just to put things into perspective ( for anyone who cares to read this and myself as well)

 
I thought you were talking about some Android phone from a few years ago until I started Googling it o_O

 

 

haha yup.... came out 8 months ago ... the specs war is getting old; we need firmware/software/hardware cohesiveness more than anything imho 



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Posted Jun 19 '13 @ 7:33 PM

I just finished reading the FCC docs on the Moto X. According to the graphic below, the overall form factor is even smaller than the Nexus 4. 



 Device Length Width Height
Nexus 4 133.9 68.7 9.1
HTC One 137.4 68.2 9.3
Galaxy S4 136.6 69.8 7.9
Moto X 128.5 65.0 N/A


Source: FCC



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Posted Jun 19 '13 @ 7:48 PM

Hmmm.. So a slightly smaller screen? That may affect my decision on purchasing it.. With all these phones coming out with bigger screens every time, I'm getting more and more used to them.. Going back to anything smaller than my S3 will feel tiny. I can deal with the Nexus 4 size... but smaller? eek.

I thought it looked a little on the small side when looking at these leaks but I was hoping it was due to being a dummy unit.
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Posted Jun 19 '13 @ 8:18 PM

That phone had better anticipate when I want my breakfast.


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Posted Jun 19 '13 @ 8:46 PM

I just want a 4.7" screen.  4.5" is too small.  Cycled through various keyboards and none really helped, save for Swiftkey but it isn't a huge difference.  I just need more space for my fat thumbs.  lol



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Posted Jun 19 '13 @ 8:54 PM

I would say that.. maybe they're trying to target a larger demographic by having a mid size phone.. but I can't even believe how many people I see walking around with Galaxy S3, S4 and even Notes.

Then again, that's just my eyes.. I'm sure they have experts who dig up the overall statistics and go with the best approach.

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Posted Jun 20 '13 @ 8:34 AM

It is hard to assume an exact screen size with only the body measurements to refer to imho...

 

If for example this phone would have 10mm of bezel on top and bottom, it could technically hold a 5" screen (w/ no bezel on the sides)...

 

I really hope phones keep getting smaller while maintaining the screen sizes we got used to (4.5-5.0) rather than getting thinner and thinner...

 

I really like the "thickness" of the One for example but the screen could be a little shorter... 



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Posted Jun 20 '13 @ 8:43 AM

It is hard to assume an exact screen size with only the body measurements to refer to imho...

 

If for example this phone would have 10mm of bezel on top and bottom, it could technically hold a 5" screen (w/ no bezel on the sides)...

 

I really hope phones keep getting smaller while maintaining the screen sizes we got used to (4.5-5.0) rather than getting thinner and thinner...

 

I really like the "thickness" of the One for example but the screen could be a little shorter... 

 

That is true.. it's actually rumored at 4.7, so it could be like you said... bezels are becoming more and more thin.


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Posted Jun 21 '13 @ 8:57 AM

 

That is true.. it's actually rumored at 4.7, so it could be like you said... bezels are becoming more and more thin.

 

 4.7 is the sweet spot for me... same or slightly bigger screen than my Gnex on a smaller body? yes please


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Posted Jul 20 '13 @ 6:40 PM

Battery is 2200mAh... which isnt shocking given Motorola's history for great battery life.

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Posted Jul 21 '13 @ 5:04 AM

A dual core can still perform in today's market.  Take the S3 for example.  Its running a dual core and when you flash stock AOSP on it there is no issues with lag at all.  There can be a place for a dual core considering that most of the top end phones using quad cores need it to power the crap that they throw on after the fact.

 

If and only IF Moto is able to pull off this phone with a dual core without having any lag, stutters, hiccups or slowdowns then this phone can be in the conversation.  Oh yea, and the price has to be considerably cheaper, around the Nexus price range.  


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Posted Jul 21 '13 @ 7:38 PM

I won't mind dual core as long as I get quick response and performance.   The iphone 3G in my house seems to  run(or display) as fast as my Gnex but it has a much smaller screen. The screen on the MOTOX  seems to be 320dpi which is fine especially since it has the adreno 320 GPU which should have no trouble with display speeds.

 

I really think all of these specs are playing along with Goggles stated direction to optimize the system so that less resources are required.

 

Still not comfortable with only 16Gig on a phone which leaves something like 12 or 13 for me to actually use.

 

Now the questions I have are:

 

How many of our current apps are actually making use of quad or octo cores?

 

If the newer operating system can run with less resources what about developers are they going to be on board or are they going to continue to produce apps with max requirements?

If so performance may be terrible.

 

What part will the new  SDK play in developing apps with less resources?  Seems like this is the place to start helping developers.

 

How will the camera perform....better than on the Nexus line....better than on previous Moto phones?  Lets hope.

 

How well do the radios, GPS perform?  

 

I can't wait until this phone is in the wild so we can see how it performs in the real world.

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted Jul 21 '13 @ 9:21 PM

Pulled the pics below from a story posted by Android Police. Damn I'd like to get me one of those tipsters lol... Anyway, one interesting nugget of info was that overall benchmarking scores were sub par by HTC One and GS4 standards, but it blew everyone else out of the water in terms of graphics performance.

 

At the end of the day the only thing that matters is that it looks cool and perceptually perform well. The average consumer won't care what's under the hood. 

 

 

How many of our current apps are actually making use of quad or octo cores?

 

That's a good question.

 

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Posted Jul 22 '13 @ 11:31 AM

I am rethinking my previous statement about the phone only having 16Gig of space.  On my Gnex with 32Gig I currently have 22 available.  So with apps, pics and whatever else is sitting in downloads(I will have to check on this because there is a ton of stuff in there I probably don't need) I am consuming 10 GIG.  If I get a 16GiG phone and load all the crap onto it that I have I will have 6 Gig left.  This may be enough for me.