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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 3:12 AM

Anyone with a keyboard can share an opinion, and here is one from a ZDNet blogger about his first impressions of the Moto X.

This one's for you, Dylan:

Summary: I've spent the weekend with the Moto X and keep grabbing my HTC One instead. The price is too high for a subsidized Android device with mid-range specs and plastic feel.


Full review: here

Like I've always said, your review is the only one that matters in the end.
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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 3:38 AM

Some compromises were made, obviously. 

 

That said, I would get it if it were sold here.



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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 5:42 AM

It's a bit overpriced but not because of the plastic. I can't take anyone seriously when they automatically call a phone made from plastic "cheap feeling."

The specs however definitely aren't good enough for a phone that costs that much however. I wonder if the extra cost comes from Motor Maker and the variety of materials that can be used in its making if the customer so chooses.

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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 5:43 AM

Wasn't it from being assembled in America?



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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 5:49 AM

Yeah. But sadly they chose Texas. :P

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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 10:24 PM

I'm still confused over the pricing debate. All new phones are $199 on contract, are they not?



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Posted Aug 21 '13 @ 10:49 PM

People are used to the pricing of Nexus devices. :/ 



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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:16 AM

I'm still confused over the pricing debate. All new phones are $199 on contract, are they not?


All new phones within an applicable range. Although these days, that range is as wide as ever. Particularly considering this thing is apparently in it.

Btw, did I read correctly that the engraving option is gone due to quality issues?

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:32 AM

I'm still confused over the pricing debate. All new phones are $199 on contract, are they not?

The One was 149.99 on contract. At least on my carrier.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:39 AM

I'm still confused over the pricing debate. All new phones are $199 on contract, are they not?

The One was 149.99 on contract. At least on my carrier.

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It started at $199 for AT&T. I believe it's also that on Verizon.

It might be $99 now, at least for Sprint and T-Mobile.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:43 AM

can't you just buy an unlocked phone and get a plan with it?



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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:49 AM

can't you just buy an unlocked phone and get a plan with it?


Unless it's prepaid, you're still paying a subsidy. Kinda sucks.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:52 AM

Oh. I just bought my note 2 unlocked and got a plan with my carrier. we have more flexible plans here, i think...



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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:54 AM

Oh. I just bought my note 2 unlocked and got a plan with my carrier. we have more flexible plans here, i think...

 

Yup.

 

You can get a plan, but the price is still inflated due to the subsidy.  Unless it's prepaid, that is.  Or on a smaller, more regional carrier.


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 5:57 AM

Man...that stinks.



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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:00 AM

Man...that stinks.

 

Yeah.  The stranglehold of Verizon, AT&T, TMo, and Sprint is terrible.

 

TMo is trying to change things, but unfortunately, they're "uncarrier" or "uncontract" financing plan is still a bloody contract.


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:04 AM

Well, the plan I am on now is what my carrier calls a "freedom plan". I get to pick "buckets" of packages every month:

 

http://www1.smart.co...s/freedom-plans

 

sadly, i didn't get the LTE version of my note 2 so no LTE for me :P



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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:13 AM

Well, the plan I am on now is what my carrier calls a "freedom plan". I get to pick "buckets" of packages every month:

 

http://www1.smart.co...s/freedom-plans

 

sadly, i didn't get the LTE version of my note 2 so no LTE for me :P

 

If you don't mind, what's your average bill per month?


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:18 AM

i just paid around $18 this month for 1 gb of data + 2000 texts to all networks + 400 mins of calls to my carrier and sister networks

 

i'm intending to get another bucket next month. they have a promo going on :D

 

because on my  'freedom' plan, i can choose whatever package i want every month, i don't have a fixed monthly bill. 


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:26 AM

i just paid around $18 this month for 1 gb of data + 2000 texts to all networks + 400 mins of calls to my carrier and sister networks

i'm intending to get another bucket next month. they have a promo going on :D

because on my 'freedom' plan, i can choose whatever package i want every month, i don't have a fixed monthly bill.


$18? Jesus, we're doing it all wrong here.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:28 AM

yeah, I would say so too  :P

 

but that's because i bought my phone separately. my dad got his iPhone 5 free on a subsidy and he's paying around $25 a month for his plan and the phone...


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:49 AM

My bill is about $100 more a month than that. 


I have the Rickets! 


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 6:56 AM

You guys are getting gouged :mellow:

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 8:16 AM

I'm on a corporate plan. Unlimited texting, 6GB of data, voice mail, etc. for 40 bucks a month.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 8:22 AM

I'm on a corporate plan. Unlimited texting, 6GB of data, voice mail, etc. for 40 bucks a month.

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Damnit. I wish my firm offered such plans.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 11:08 AM

I'm on a corporate plan. Unlimited texting, 6GB of data, voice mail, etc. for 40 bucks a month.

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Damnit. I wish my firm offered such plans.

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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 12:51 PM

It might be $99 now, at least for Sprint and T-Mobile.

 

J-Lo has it for $99 ;)  


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Posted Aug 22 '13 @ 12:53 PM

 

It might be $99 now, at least for Sprint and T-Mobile.

 

J-Lo has it for $99 ;)

 

 

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Posted Aug 23 '13 @ 1:34 PM

Anyone with a keyboard can share an opinion, and here is one from a ZDNet blogger about his first impressions of the Moto X.

This one's for you, Dylan:
 

Summary: I've spent the weekend with the Moto X and keep grabbing my HTC One instead. The price is too high for a subsidized Android device with mid-range specs and plastic feel.


Full review: here

Like I've always said, your review is the only one that matters in the end.

 

I read the review.  Some of my thoughts on it:

 

He complained about loose buttons; I wouldn't like that either but that could just be on the phone is has.  He really likes his HTC one.  I have never seen or held the HTC or the Moto x but I like the looks of both especially since the Moto managed to cram a large screen into a body smaller than the previous two Nexii.

 

He doesn't like the price for the specs.  I've never seen a 1080P screen and most people like it especially if it is IPS or LCD.  I have seen the screen on the Moto x cause I have one similar on my Galaxy Nexus although smaller.  Screen is fine for me and I really think Moto went with the AMOLED screen because of the way you can turn one or two pixels on without lighting the entire screen, any other type of screen defeats the purpose of their new notification technique.  He would prefer better processors.  I have never used a phone with an S800 or Samsung's 8 core Octo thing but then again, there aren't any apps that actually require  it to run and  I don't have any apps that really need that much processor.  I mean my phone runs games and stuff just fine so...?  My iphone family member picks up the phone uses it and it works well( and yes it stutters sometimes but rarely) and doesn't even want to know about it's specs..the phone works well...all is good in Philly town.

 

It should be no surprise that this phone doesn't have the highest end specs, because early on Eric Schmidt said as much when he mentioned that there was too much attention paid to the specs of a phone and not enough paid to the overall experience. He or someone from Android mentioned that Google was working on optimising Android so that it could run well with lower processing requirements...Is this a future direction that OEMs will take?....No need for higher and higher power so why have it in our phones tearing into battery life? The review never compared the phones for performance which I think was a mistake since we have high end phones like some Galaxy S 4's lagging all over the place--talk about no excuses.

 

Even if Moto sold this phone to the carriers dirt cheap do you think they are going to sell it us for the same?  To do so would mean that they would have to lower the price of feature phones and to do so would wreck their business cost model, and one thing for sure is that they don't care that much about consumers..they just want OUR money.  

 

I am waiting for the reviews that show how well the phone performs against other higher spec'd phones, and since this reviewer is into specs I hope he includes benchmarks in this next review.



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Posted Aug 23 '13 @ 10:13 PM


Very well thought out and well spoken. You're always the voice of reason Lol.